Thursday, March 22, 2007

Tuesday Topics on, ummm...on Thursday. Sorry.

Thank goodness I stopped by Bluegrrrl's or I would have completely missed the first Tuesday topic for One Million Blogs for Peace. I really am for PEACE and I want to take this seriously.

First Tuesday Topic
Tuesday, 20 March 2007
Think back four years ago, to when you first heard that the Iraq War had started.
Were you for or against the war at the time?
If you were for it, what has changed your mind over the last four years?
If you were against it, why were you against it?

When I think back I can remember being just plain scared. I was never for the war. War is never the answer in my mind. I was scared because I knew it would lead to alot of sadness. Little did I know at the time how close to home the war would come for me. I can tell you I NEVER imagined in my wildest dreams that my son would join the army. Anyone who knew him I am certain, would say the same thing.

At the time that it started I was against the war because it was a war. I don't think I had figured out all the other reasons it was so wrong yet. All the lies we were told. It was embarrassing to see the citizens of our country get behind a war with so much bravado. Eager for the bloodshed. Like some archaic society. Throwing stones for entertainment. Why can't they rally like that for PEACE. The payoff seems bigger and more rewarding to me.


Blogger JM said...

It's weird, at that time we had just moved into the house where we now live and had invited some friends over. The topic of Iraq came up, and I was amazed to find that everybody else but me was buying the rhetoric to justify the war. I was trying to argue that we were being mislead by questionable intelligence, and I was quickly made to feel that my reluctance to embrace this quest made me some kind of wimp. It's a good point that you make, since if we could muster up the same kind of anti-war passion to get out of this mess that we did to get into it, the whole dang thing would soon be over, except for the hornets nest that we've stirred up.

3/22/2007 12:45:00 PM  
Blogger Krissy Doyle said...

I am not sure how to ask this question without starting a debate, but here it goes. First let me say, that I am NOT for this war or any war. My nephew is currently serving in Iraq and I want him home. Okay, so here is my question....How do you respond with Peace? When the terrorists came into our country and blasted planes into our buildings, how should we have responded? When there are countries that hate the U.S.A. and want to try and hurt us, what should we do? Like I said, please don't take this the wrong way, I just want to get an answer without starting a screaming match. No one has ever been able to give me an answer. Thank you. I hope I don't regret this! :)

3/22/2007 02:58:00 PM  
Blogger Peacechick Mary said...

Krissy: You DO know that Saddam and crew had nothing to do with our 911 episode, right? So, bombing people who did not harbor thoughts of harm to us, is just foolish, if not criminal. The intelligence our President received told him who did it and gave him plans for covert removal of those who did the harm.

On the eve of our invasion of Iraq, I was tearful, restless and very unhappy. I could just see this bloody ball of horror and sadness let loose and it would grow to enormous proportions. It has.

3/22/2007 04:50:00 PM  
Blogger Mary said...

Krissy- I think your question is very valid and good. I don't think I am the best person to answer it but I will try to tell you how I feel. This is not my strong point. I like the teachings of Ghandi. Mass civil disobedience andnegotiations. But in this case that wouldn't work would it. A terrorist is a different animal. They just want to cause terror. It seems our government reacted exactly as they wanted them too. So why do we answer w/war? Why not go after the terrorists? What the hell happened to Osama? Why doesn't our intelligence just go after the terrorists? Saddam didn't attack us. Read what this guy says about terrorism. This kinda sums it up for me.
What Terrorists Want

3/22/2007 04:55:00 PM  
Blogger Krissy Doyle said...

peacechick - yes, I know that Saddam and crew had nothing to do with 911. Like I said, I do not support the war in Iraq.

Mary, thank you. I like the article. Makes sense. It's hard to ignore the media and the politicians. They do have a way of getting us all worked up!

3/22/2007 05:40:00 PM  
Blogger bluegrrrrl said...

Mary, I am so on the same page with you (no surprise there)...

My own position on war is that I am always against it, for any reason. And I understand why some people have a problem with that, for example, in response to the 9/11 attacks. But I believe to my soul that counteracting violence with more violence leads only to death and not to any form of understanding or lasting peace.

Krissy's questions are valid--how SHOULD we have responded to the 9/11 attacks (which have nothing to do with the Iraq war)? I don't have a concrete answer for that, but I know that a whole lot of innocent people died in the aftermath, just as a whole lot of innocent people died on 9/11...and our world is not more secure or peaceful because of it.

Sorry, I don't mean to go off on my own diatribe here. Mary, your question "Why can't they rally like that for PEACE" is the key...what if the widespread American response to 9/11 and Bush's war against Iraq had been to rally for peace instead of revenge? Some people say it would have made us look feeling, though, is that it would have had the opposite effect.

3/22/2007 09:36:00 PM  
Blogger supergirlest said...

i totally lost what i was going to say about your post after reading the comments. krissy got me thinking. i have a post about this a-brewin now, but first i'm off to read your link...

3/22/2007 10:07:00 PM  
Blogger Mary said...

Bluegrrrl- I agree with everything you have said. I actually think Krissy's question was great and has really given us all an opportunity to THINK.

Supergirlest- Can't wait.

JM- Can you imagine having the same amount of troops we have had but only representing peace seekers?

Peacechick- That's what I'm saying. I couldn't imagine that our intelligence couldn't tell us all that. And Bush just went a completely different direction and everyone let him.

3/22/2007 11:49:00 PM  
Blogger Yoga Korunta said...

Peace can't do better if one means acquiescing to a madman's demands. One would be interested in reading a pacifist's response. I will defend your family and mine to my death.

3/23/2007 12:06:00 AM  
Blogger No said...

Best post and comments I've read about the war yet..Keep it up, Mary and all of your commenters. You're the best.

3/23/2007 06:00:00 AM  
Blogger dawn said...

I answered this on Bluegrrrl's blog. Unfortunatly I don't feel there is an answer for Krissy and thats just sad

3/23/2007 01:36:00 PM  
Blogger just me said...

I was taking care of my father in WV and my son was stationed in Hawaii at the Naval Station. I was absolutely terrified because I knew somehow that he would probably have to go. The decision to go to war, seemed to me, to be a witch hunt. I didn't vote for Bush because I thought, and still do that he is crazy.

What Bush has never realized, or his administration, is that foreign policy is vital to our nations security. We have no foreign policy. For all of Nixon's mistakes, he was a master at foreign policy, one example being our diplomatic relations with Red China. Bush seems to think changing all governments to one of his likeing is the best policy. And it is not only stupid, but dangerous.

And I guess that is how I would respond to Krissy's comment. To fight terrorism, we have to understand why we are hated, and to do that, we must have a dialogue with other nations. The Cuban Missle Crisis was avoided by dialogue and negotiations. There is always an alternative to war. Colin Powell knew this, and that is why he left.

Perhaps instead of condemning the regime in Iraq, and searching for reasons or excuses to invade, we could have tried diplomacy.

3/24/2007 02:32:00 PM  
Blogger Mary said...

Just me- I couldn't agree more! Where is diplomacy? What happened to negotiations.

3/24/2007 08:25:00 PM  

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